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Slowpokeking · Mar 06, 2011, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Whenever I use it I saw the word pop out from my char and gain the energy but the icon never showed in the left top of the screen, also it won't renew Aggressive Refain I'm not sure is it truly working.

Zanagi Kazuhiko · Mar 06, 2011, 08:16 PM // 20:16

"For 4...6 seconds, all other party members gain +100 armor."

OTHER means everyone except you. So you don't get SY.

bitchbar player · Mar 06, 2011, 08:17 PM // 20:17

read the skill again, you will know why.

LifeInfusion · Mar 06, 2011, 08:22 PM // 20:22

SY! is usually run in 2 copies or some form of other prot (Shelter) for this reason.

Dre · Mar 06, 2011, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by Slowpokeking

Whenever I use it I saw the word pop out from my char and gain the energy but the icon never showed in the left top of the screen, also it won't renew Aggressive Refain I'm not sure is it truly working.

SY only works on your party members, not on yourself.
Because it affects your party members, you still gain energy, but you don't gain it's effect

Damn Ninjas >.>

Urcscumug · Mar 06, 2011, 10:56 PM // 22:56

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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

SY! is usually run in 2 copies or some form of other prot (Shelter) for this reason.

Unless you're using it for aggro control, in which case you just want one copy, for the express purpose of making the user the most attractive target for the mobs.

FoxBat · Mar 06, 2011, 10:57 PM // 22:57

I'm not convinced mobs care about adjusted DR. I've never seen them aggro onto an SY spammer. Seems like they only evaluate "base" DR. (whatever that is exactly.)

Urcscumug · Mar 07, 2011, 03:11 PM // 15:11

There are a number of factors that affect aggro, not just AL. Add to this the fact that the AI is not very good at switching targets. If you use it when the mobs have already engaged then yeah, they're not likely to break off and come after you just because of the AL difference.

SY is not a sure thing, like dropping a magnet into a pile of pins. You can't come along and use it whenever you want and bam, all mobs come to you. You have to apply aggro control right from the start and maintain it carefully. SY can help with that, but it's just one thing among many.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...t10467042.html
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Aggro

PS: FWIW, there are monster skills like "Enemies must die!" that directly manipulate aggro.

Quaker · Mar 07, 2011, 04:03 PM // 16:03

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Originally Posted by Slowpokeking

Whenever I use it I saw the word pop out from my char and gain the energy but the icon never showed in the left top of the screen, also it won't renew Aggressive Refain I'm not sure is it truly working.

You could also carry "Watch Yourself!" (in addition to SY) to give yourself some armor and renew AR.

Mar 06, 2011, 08:11 PM // 20:11	#1
Slowpokeking Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2011	Save Yourselves problem Whenever I use it I saw the word pop out from my char and gain the energy but the icon never showed in the left top of the screen, also it won't renew Aggressive Refain I'm not sure is it truly working.

Mar 06, 2011, 08:16 PM // 20:16	#2
Zanagi Kazuhiko Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kamadan Dis 1 Guild: LF trolling/flaming guild, 8=D Profession: W/	"For 4...6 seconds, all other party members gain +100 armor." OTHER means everyone except you. So you don't get SY.

Mar 06, 2011, 08:17 PM // 20:17	#3
bitchbar player Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: still lost Guild: Guy In Real Life [GIRL] Profession: Mo/	read the skill again, you will know why.

Mar 06, 2011, 08:22 PM // 20:22	#4
LifeInfusion Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: in the midline Profession: E/Mo	SY! is usually run in 2 copies or some form of other prot (Shelter) for this reason.

Mar 06, 2011, 10:57 PM // 22:57	#7
FoxBat Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Amazon Basin [AB] Profession: Mo/Me	I'm not convinced mobs care about adjusted DR. I've never seen them aggro onto an SY spammer. Seems like they only evaluate "base" DR. (whatever that is exactly.)

Mar 07, 2011, 03:11 PM // 15:11	#8
Urcscumug Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2011 Guild: UNO Profession: W/	There are a number of factors that affect aggro, not just AL. Add to this the fact that the AI is not very good at switching targets. If you use it when the mobs have already engaged then yeah, they're not likely to break off and come after you just because of the AL difference. SY is not a sure thing, like dropping a magnet into a pile of pins. You can't come along and use it whenever you want and bam, all mobs come to you. You have to apply aggro control right from the start and maintain it carefully. SY can help with that, but it's just one thing among many. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...t10467042.html http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Aggro PS: FWIW, there are monster skills like "Enemies must die!" that directly manipulate aggro.